Fucking dealers...

"MUSASHI66" (musashi66)
08/22/2020 at 22:46 • Filed to: None

Both wife and myself needed one of these tonight...

- See that Toyota offers a certain deal on a Tundra

- Call the dealership about it

- Get an offer $180 per month higher “because taxes”

Yeah, fuck you buddy, the $20 per month tax doesn’t magically make up for your $180 higher monthly price.

Seriously, the amount of time I spend finding a salesperson with an ounce of brain that can recognize that I can use a calculator is staggering.

DISCUSSION (22)

The Ghost of Oppo > MUSASHI66
08/22/2020 at 22:55

I had never before witnessed such an apathetic sales team then when we visited our local Toyota dealer to look at a RAV4. They weren’t busy but we couldn’t get anyone to go on a test drive. So now we have a Tucson.

That was a few years ago, but at the moment I am really wanting to look at Tacomas . I might after to drive the extra 40 minutes to visit a different dealer after that experience.

MUSASHI66 > The Ghost of Oppo
08/22/2020 at 22:59

I didn’t have a problem getting anyone to talk to me, just issues with pricing. I might wait a year for the all new 2022 Tundra and hope they have some decent deals on the 2021’a then.

I guess they just figure “eh it’s a Toyota, it’ll sell anyway”.

VincentMalamute-Kim > MUSASHI66
08/22/2020 at 23:01

When I bought my Transit, I avoided those shenanigans by emailing 12 dealers to give me their best total out-the-door price including fees, taxes, doc fees, advertising fees, copying fees, registration, extra profit, whatever they want to throw in there.

4 ignored me. 4 gave me the run-around of “I can’t do that but if you come in, I’ll give you a great price”. 4 sent me quotes that listed every single charge and one final price.

MUSASHI66 > VincentMalamute-Kim
08/22/2020 at 23:13

No luck so far. I tried emailing and calling and walking in. Getting anything past the “here is the price with $$ down for xx months” hasn’t happened yet.

facw > VincentMalamute-Kim
08/22/2020 at 23:14

That certainly seems to be what Tom recommends on the front page. With a side of “if in 2020, they are still unwilling to give you a price on the internet, they probably aren’t a dealer you want to deal with anyway”.

VincentMalamute-Kim > facw
08/22/2020 at 23:15

Now that you remind me, I bet I learned that technique from reading Tom’s articles . I forget since it was three years ago.

VincentMalamute-Kim > MUSASHI66
08/22/2020 at 23:17

Gotta move on to the next dealer. Four dealers completely ignored me. Four tried the old snake oil sales techniques. I had the response you got with 2/3 of the dealers I contacted.

I emailed all the dealers in the Madison-Milwaukee-Kenosha corridor.

MUSASHI66 > VincentMalamute-Kim
08/22/2020 at 23:23

Issue is stock right now. There are only 80 Tundras in a 200 miles radius. I think things will get better with 2021’s when they start cranking more of them.

shop-teacher > VincentMalamute-Kim
08/22/2020 at 23:33

I did the same with my wife's CX-5.

VincentMalamute-Kim > MUSASHI66
08/23/2020 at 00:09

It may be worth it to drive hundreds of miles to get one. Or not, in which case you’ll have to pay that dealer the extra bucks he wants. Or wait to 2021.

VincentMalamute-Kim > shop-teacher
08/23/2020 at 00:10

I liked Tom’s technique. Didn’t have to step into a dealership or even talk to anyone until I picked up the car.

Cash Rewards > VincentMalamute-Kim
08/23/2020 at 07:35

That success rate sounds about right

shop-teacher > VincentMalamute-Kim
08/23/2020 at 08:45

Yeah, me too. I also learned it from Tom. It was a little more complicated for me, because I was actually trading two vehicles in on one. There was a big of a rigamarole around that. I ended up getting the best trade offers from the dealer that gave me the second best price. The prices were within $100 anyways. I was really happy with the whole experience.

VincentMalamute-Kim > shop-teacher
08/23/2020 at 11:12

ah - my deal was clean - no trade in.

Otherwise we had similar experiences. T he lowest prices were close so I went with the most responsive of the bunch. This was much more pleasant than the last few times (spread out over 40 yrs ) buying cars the old school way.

VincentMalamute-Kim > Cash Rewards
08/23/2020 at 11:14

I was surprised that 1/3 of dealer’s “Internet salespeople ” did not have enough interest to even respon d to an email .

shop-teacher > VincentMalamute-Kim
08/23/2020 at 11:32

My next deal will be clean. I will definitely use Tom's method again. It was so simple and so much more pleasant.

Cash Rewards > VincentMalamute-Kim
08/23/2020 at 11:48

So meone in here summed it up as "you sound like an educated consumer, they would prefer a sucker". It's not that they don't want a sale, they don't want to sell to you, when they can sell for more to someone else.

VincentMalamute-Kim > Cash Rewards
08/23/2020 at 11:56

I’d believe that. But you’d think they would still prefer a sale with a smaller profit than no sale.

Having more sales increases their allocations and would be better for them in general with Ford corporate.

Puzzling.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > VincentMalamute-Kim
08/24/2020 at 00:33

Did you buy any of them?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > MUSASHI66
08/24/2020 at 00:34

Have you considered Costco or Car Max? Or Hertz fleet sales?

MUSASHI66 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/24/2020 at 10:50

Looked at Costco, and the deals aren’t there. Carmax and Hertz would be used, and slightly used Tundra sell for more than new ones quite often.

VincentMalamute-Kim > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/24/2020 at 11:20

I bought the Transit in 2017 using Tom’s method. Best method.

I bought t he Sienna for my parents in 2010 the traditional way - kinda PITA and a couple of details left a sour taste.

I bought the Audi S4 in 2000 and paid MSRP because it was mildly in demand ( may be) because it was the return of their S-cars to the US market. And/or because I really wanted it.

I bought a Toyota Van in 1981 for my parents. I had no idea what I was doing.